{"id":1963,"date":"2024-02-01T22:10:53","date_gmt":"2024-02-01T21:10:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/slovanskyvybor.sk\/?p=1963"},"modified":"2024-04-10T00:55:02","modified_gmt":"2024-04-09T22:55:02","slug":"z-cesty-v-moskve","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/slovanskyvybor.sk\/en\/z-cesty-v-moskve\/","title":{"rendered":"Z cesty v Moskve: Rozhovor so \u0161\u00e9fom Rossotrudni\u010destva"},"content":{"rendered":"

V septembri 2023 bol Tom\u00e1\u0161 \u0160pa\u010dek s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou medzin\u00e1rodnej deleg\u00e1cie, ktor\u00e1 mala nieko\u013ekod\u0148ov\u00fd program v Moskve. V r\u00e1mci tejto cesty vyu\u017eil aj pr\u00edle\u017eitos\u0165 stretn\u00fa\u0165 sa a spravi\u0165 rozhovor s Jevgenijom Primakovom, ktor\u00fd p\u00f4sob\u00ed ako \u0161\u00e9f Rossotrudni\u010destva. Rossotrudni\u010destvo je popredn\u00e1 rusk\u00e1 feder\u00e1lna agent\u00fara, ktorej hlavn\u00fdm poslan\u00edm je posil\u0148ovanie humanit\u00e1rneho vplyvu Ruska vo svete. Organiz\u00e1ciu zastupuje 73 zahrani\u010dn\u00fdch misi\u00ed v 62 \u0161t\u00e1toch sveta. Od roku 2021 dostali neform\u00e1lny n\u00e1zov \u201eRusk\u00fd dom\u201c.
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Ni\u017e\u0161ie si m\u00f4\u017eete pre\u010d\u00edta\u0165 cel\u00fd rozhovor v slovenskom jazyku:

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Moja prv\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka na V\u00e1s je \u2013 Vy, ako \u0161\u00e9f Rossotrudni\u010destva, \u010do v s\u00fa\u010dasnosti pova\u017eujete za hlavn\u00fd pr\u00ednos tejto organiz\u00e1cie?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Primakov: Hovor\u00edme tomu humanit\u00e1rna politika. Tie sme prev\u00e1dzkovali doned\u00e1vna v 80 krajin\u00e1ch sveta. Ned\u00e1vno boli niektor\u00e9 z na\u0161ich kancel\u00e1ri\u00ed zatvoren\u00e9, nie v\u0161ak z d\u00f4vodu n\u00e1\u0161ho rozhodnutia. No ako napr\u00edklad v Slovinsku, na Slovensku, v Chorv\u00e1tsku, v Severnom Maced\u00f3nsku, v Rumunsku a v niektor\u00fdch \u010fal\u0161\u00edch krajin\u00e1ch vzh\u013eadom na v\u0161etky okolnosti s\u00favisiace so sankciami. Ale sme celkom \u00faspe\u0161n\u00ed z h\u013eadiska prij\u00edmania nov\u00fdch zahrani\u010dn\u00fdch \u0161tudentov na \u0161t\u00fadium na rusk\u00fdch univerzit\u00e1ch pod\u013ea kv\u00f3t, ktor\u00e9 stanovila vl\u00e1da Ruskej feder\u00e1cie. Ka\u017ed\u00fd rok prij\u00edmame okolo 30 000 nov\u00fdch zahrani\u010dn\u00fdch \u0161tudentov. Pred p\u00e1r rokmi to bolo 15 000, teraz je to dvakr\u00e1t viac. Potom m\u00e1me na\u0161e kurzy ru\u0161tiny, m\u00e1me \u0161kolenia pre u\u010dite\u013eov rusk\u00e9ho jazyka, m\u00e1me zahrani\u010dn\u00e9 programy, ako je ten, ktor\u00e9ho sa z\u00fa\u010dast\u0148ujete. Pom\u00e1hame n\u00e1\u0161mu ministerstvu kult\u00fary a niektor\u00fdm kult\u00farnym in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00e1m pri realiz\u00e1cii v\u00fdstav v zahrani\u010d\u00ed, aby sa na\u0161e divadl\u00e1 a filmy mohli premieta\u0165 v na\u0161ich kult\u00farnych centr\u00e1ch. My taktie\u017e prev\u00e1dzkujeme tieto kult\u00farne centr\u00e1. A st\u00e1le si mysl\u00edme, \u017ee sa im dar\u00ed dobre fungova\u0165 aj pod tlakom. St\u00e1le funguj\u00fa a to je dobr\u00e9.

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Skvel\u00e9. Tak\u017ee prejdime k \u010fal\u0161ej ot\u00e1zke \u2013 ako z\u00e1padn\u00e9 sankcie ovplyvnili plnenie Va\u0161ich cie\u013eov vo v\u00fdchodoeur\u00f3pskom regi\u00f3ne? Napr\u00edklad na \u00fazem\u00ed Slovenska?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Primakov: No, skoro som V\u00e1m odpovedal.
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\u0160pa\u010dek: \u00c1no, ale m\u00f4\u017eete sa teraz zamera\u0165 na Slovensko.
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Priamkov: Ur\u010dite \u00e1no. Na Slovensku m\u00e1me st\u00e1le mno\u017estvo, nie ve\u013ek\u00e9, ale asi dve desiatky \u0161tudentov, ktor\u00ed prich\u00e1dzaj\u00fa \u0161tudova\u0165 do Ruska. St\u00e1le s\u00fa tu \u013eudia, ktor\u00ed sa zauj\u00edmaj\u00fa o rusk\u00fa kult\u00faru a rusk\u00fd jazyk. \u017dia\u013e, v na\u0161om kult\u00farnom centre to \u0161tudova\u0165 u\u017e nem\u00f4\u017eu. Bolo to zatvoren\u00e9 \u2013 ne\u0161lo o na\u0161e rozhodnutie. Po\u010det na\u0161ich zamestnancov, ktor\u00ed mali diplomatick\u00e9 pasy a boli predt\u00fdm p\u00f4vodne zamestnancami rusk\u00e9ho ve\u013evyslanectva na Slovensku, bol rozhodnut\u00edm hostite\u013eskej krajiny zn\u00ed\u017een\u00fd. A\u00a0toto rozhodnutie negat\u00edvne ovplyvnilo na\u0161e fungovanie. Mimochodom, takmer vo v\u0161etk\u00fdch eur\u00f3pskych krajin\u00e1ch, v Eur\u00f3pskej \u00fanii tieto kult\u00farne centr\u00e1 form\u00e1lne nie s\u00fa s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou Rossotrudni\u010destva, ani zastupite\u013esk\u00fdch kancel\u00e1ri\u00ed Rossotrudni\u010destva. S\u00fa to samostatn\u00e9 kult\u00farne centr\u00e1. Ale to pre org\u00e1ny eur\u00f3pskych kraj\u00edn nebol dostato\u010dn\u00fd argument, preto\u017ee boli odhodlan\u00e9 zru\u0161i\u0165 rusk\u00fa kult\u00faru, jazyk a tak \u010falej. Toto je \u017eia\u013e pr\u00edpad aj Slovenska. St\u00e1le m\u00e1me funguj\u00face kult\u00farne centrum vo Viedni a v Belehrade a\u00a0tie sa sna\u017eia pokry\u0165 nejak\u00e9 po\u017eiadavky aj slovensk\u00e9ho publika, ale aj tak je na\u0161a pr\u00e1ca tam na Slovensku… no opusten\u00fd blok, bohu\u017eia\u013e.
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\u0160pa\u010dek: Tak\u017ee v Rak\u00fasku to funguje norm\u00e1lne?
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Primakov: \u00c1no, v Rak\u00fasku to funguje, no, viete, takmer vo v\u0161etk\u00fdch eur\u00f3pskych krajin\u00e1ch sa kv\u00f4li tomuto sank\u010dn\u00e9mu zoznamu stret\u00e1vame napr\u00edklad s probl\u00e9mami s na\u0161imi bankov\u00fdmi \u00fa\u010dtami. \u010ci\u017ee transakcie boli zablokovan\u00e9 alebo n\u00e1m boli zablokovan\u00e9 bankov\u00e9 \u00fa\u010dty a podobne. To je probl\u00e9m aj z h\u013eadiska platenia dan\u00ed \u010di pokrytia verejnoprospe\u0161n\u00fdch \u010dinnost\u00ed. To je probl\u00e9m. Nejde ani tak o pr\u00e1cu v humanit\u00e1rnej oblasti. Nie, komunitn\u00e9 slu\u017eby. Ale rak\u00faske kult\u00farne centrum, rak\u00fasky rusk\u00fd dom st\u00e1le funguje.

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Rozumiem, m\u00f4\u017eeme prejs\u0165 k \u010fal\u0161ej ot\u00e1zke. \u010co pod\u013ea v\u00e1s viedlo Eur\u00f3psku \u00faniu k uvaleniu sankci\u00ed na Rossotrudni\u010destvo a konkr\u00e9tne na v\u00e1s?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Primakov: Asi hl\u00fapos\u0165. Asi to bolo cel\u00e9 o hl\u00faposti. Mimochodom, nevad\u00ed V\u00e1m, viete, rozpr\u00e1va\u0165 sa so sankcionovanou osobou? Je to dobre V\u00e1s v poriadku?
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\u0160pa\u010dek: \u017diadny probl\u00e9m.
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Primakov: D\u00fafam, \u017ee nebudete vystaven\u00fd nejak\u00e9mu tlaku alebo sankci\u00e1m.
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\u0160pa\u010dek: Ver\u00edm, \u017ee nie. V\u0161etko bude fajn. (Nesk\u00f4r sa uk\u00e1zalo, \u017ee v\u0161etko fajn nebolo. Pozn. autora)
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Primakov: Ur\u010dite. V skuto\u010dnosti som, som s t\u00fdm v poriadku, tak\u017ee napriek sankci\u00e1m nepoci\u0165ujem v\u00f4bec \u017eiadny rozdiel. V Eur\u00f3pe som nemal \u017eiadne akt\u00edva ani ni\u010d, tak\u017ee nem\u00e1m pocit, \u017ee by mi nie\u010do ve\u013emi ch\u00fdbalo. Viete, na niektor\u00fdch mojich kolegov boli tie\u017e uvalen\u00e9 tieto sankcie. Vn\u00edmaj\u00fa to ako odmenu. Je to pre n\u00e1s d\u00f4kazom, \u017ee fungujeme dobre. Znamen\u00e1 to, \u017ee si n\u00e1s v\u0161imli, uvalili na n\u00e1s sankcie, \u010d\u00edm potvrdili, \u017ee odv\u00e1dzame dobr\u00fa pr\u00e1cu. Toto v\u0161etko nie je o mne osobne ani o takzvanej ruskej \u0161t\u00e1tnej propagande alebo nie\u010dom takom. Ide o zru\u0161enie ruskej kult\u00fary. Vyvin\u00fa\u0165 na \u0148u tlaku. Moja, no, nie je to vlastne moja my\u0161lienka, niekde som to \u010d\u00edtal, \u017ee v s\u00fa\u010dasnej situ\u00e1cii v roku 2023 je Rusko a Rusi v Eur\u00f3pskej \u00fanii nie\u010do podobn\u00e9 ako boli \u017didia v 30. rokoch 20. storo\u010dia.
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\u0160pa\u010dek: Tie\u017e si mysl\u00edm.
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Primakov: V\u0161etky tie my\u0161lienky – nekupujte ni\u010d z Ruska, nekupova\u0165 ni\u010d od Rusov, nebavte sa s Rusmi, ne\u0161tudujte ru\u0161tinu, nepo\u010d\u00favajte rusk\u00fa hudbu, necho\u010fte do rusk\u00e9ho divadla … V\u0161etky tieto veci s\u00fa dos\u0165 podobn\u00e9 t\u00fdm, ktor\u00fdm \u010delili \u017didia v Eur\u00f3pe v 30. rokoch. M\u00f4j dobr\u00fd priate\u013e profesor Karaganov, v\u00fdznamn\u00fd rusk\u00fd vedec v oblasti medzin\u00e1rodn\u00fdch vz\u0165ahov, mi raz povedal, \u017ee existuje mo\u017enos\u0165, \u017ee povedzme o 5 alebo 10 rokov m\u00f4\u017eeme \u010deli\u0165 n\u00e1rastu skuto\u010dne fa\u0161istick\u00fdch re\u017eimov v Eur\u00f3pe . To je znepokojiv\u00fd fakt.
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\u0160pa\u010dek: To sa pr\u00e1ve teraz deje.
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Primakov: \u00c1no, jednozna\u010dne.

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Mysl\u00edte si, \u017ee ke\u010f skon\u010d\u00ed ukrajinsk\u00e1 kr\u00edza a hyst\u00e9ria okolo nej, d\u00f4jde k \u00fapln\u00e9mu obnoveniu fungovania Rossotrudni\u010destva v krajin\u00e1ch, ktor\u00e9 Rusk\u00e1 feder\u00e1cia pova\u017euje za nie priate\u013esk\u00e9?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Primakov: \u00daprimne povedan\u00e9, toto nie je to, \u010do ma znepokojuje. Na\u0161im hlavn\u00fdm z\u00e1ujmom s\u00fa prihrani\u010dn\u00e9 krajiny, tie z b\u00fdval\u00e9ho Sovietskeho zv\u00e4zu. Alebo tie, v ktor\u00fdch m\u00e1me obrovsk\u00fa diasp\u00f3ru. Alebo tie, s ktor\u00fdmi m\u00e1me komer\u010dn\u00e9 obchodn\u00e9 v\u00e4zby. Alebo tie krajiny, kde rie\u0161ime napr\u00edklad aj bezpe\u010dnostn\u00e9 z\u00e1le\u017eitosti. \u010c\u00edm viac sa z\u00e1padn\u00e1 Eur\u00f3pa st\u00e1va ak\u00fdmsi skanzenom kult\u00fary, t\u00fdm je v skuto\u010dnosti menej zauj\u00edmav\u00e1. Iste, Rusko, mysl\u00edm t\u00fdm od \u010dias c\u00e1ra Ve\u013ek\u00e9ho Petra bolo a st\u00e1le je zalo\u017een\u00e9 hlavne na eur\u00f3pskej kult\u00fare a\u00a0civiliz\u00e1cii, ale so v\u0161etk\u00fdmi t\u00fdmito vecami, ktor\u00e9 sa dej\u00fa v Eur\u00f3pe, sa m\u00f4\u017eeme pova\u017eova\u0165 za posledn\u00fa \u010das\u0165 skuto\u010dnej Eur\u00f3py a skuto\u010dnej eur\u00f3pskej kult\u00fary. Zvy\u0161ok Eur\u00f3py bl\u00fadi v chaose. Ur\u010dite sa ukrajinsk\u00e1 kr\u00edza skon\u010d\u00ed a som si \u00faplne ist\u00fd, \u017ee skon\u010d\u00ed v\u00ed\u0165azne pre Rusko. \u010co pr\u00edde k obnove na\u0161ich aktiv\u00edt v Eur\u00f3pe, mo\u017eno, mo\u017eno \u00e1no, mo\u017eno nie. Toto nie je vec, na ktorej mi skuto\u010dne z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed.
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Ako va\u0161a organiz\u00e1cia rozv\u00edja vz\u0165ahy v juhoamerick\u00fdch a africk\u00fdch krajin\u00e1ch? S\u00fa to relat\u00edvne od\u013eahl\u00e9 oblasti, m\u00f4\u017eete teda, pros\u00edm, porovna\u0165 z\u00e1ujem t\u00fdchto \u013eud\u00ed o va\u0161e aktivity v t\u00fdchto regi\u00f3noch so z\u00e1ujmom \u013eud\u00ed v Strednej \u00c1zii alebo v Eur\u00f3pe?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n

Primakov: Samozrejme, rie\u0161i\u0165 Latinsk\u00fa Ameriku je probl\u00e9m, hlavne kv\u00f4li logistike. M\u00e1te \u00fapln\u00fa pravdu, s\u00fa to ve\u013emi vzdialen\u00e9 oblasti a ke\u010f sa sna\u017e\u00edme niekoho privies\u0165 s na\u0161\u00edm programom \u201eNovej gener\u00e1cie\u201c alebo v\u00a0r\u00e1mci in\u00e9ho programu, ceny leteniek s\u00fa ve\u013emi vysok\u00e9. Je to a\u017e neuverite\u013en\u00e9. Samozrejme, susedn\u00e9 krajiny, hlavne stredo\u00e1zijsk\u00e9 republiky, s\u00fa regi\u00f3nom n\u00e1\u0161ho hlavn\u00e9ho z\u00e1ujmu.\u00a0
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O Afrike m\u00e1me ve\u013ek\u00e9 mno\u017estvo stereotypov, ako napr., \u017ee Afrika je kontinentom vojen, pand\u00e9mi\u00ed, hladu a katastrof, ale do konca 21. storo\u010dia zost\u00e1va na kontinente len nieko\u013eko kraj\u00edn, kde m\u00e1me tak\u00e9 probl\u00e9my, ako je v\u00edrus Ebola, hlad alebo ob\u010dianska vojna alebo nie\u010do podobn\u00e9. U\u017e je tak\u00fdch len zop\u00e1r. A ostatn\u00e9 s\u00fa celkom fajn. To im d\u00e1va ve\u013emi dobr\u00e9 \u0161ance rast, \u010di u\u017e ekonomick\u00fd, vedeck\u00fd, technologick\u00fd, demografick\u00fd, soci\u00e1lny a tak \u010falej. N\u00e1s teda ve\u013emi zauj\u00edma Afrika. Nie je to nie\u010do zalo\u017een\u00e9 len na my\u0161lienke, \u017ee n\u00e1\u0161 prezident Putin sa stretne s t\u00fdm a t\u00fdm prezidentom na f\u00f3re v So\u010di. To je z\u00e1klad na\u0161ej v\u00edzie vlastnej bud\u00facnosti. \u010co sa t\u00fdka \u00c1zie, je ve\u013emi zauj\u00edmav\u00e9, \u017ee na\u0161e v\u00e4zby s \u010c\u00ednou a\u00a0celkovo regi\u00f3nom \u00c1zie ve\u013emi rast\u00fa. Tak\u017ee nem\u00f4\u017eete odlo\u017ei\u0165 humanit\u00e1rny rozmer. (…) Existuje ve\u013emi ve\u013ea sp\u00f4sobov, ako rie\u0161i\u0165 medzin\u00e1rodn\u00e9 vz\u0165ahy a nejde len o diplomaciu alebo vojensk\u00fa diplomaciu. Je to aj o humanit\u00e1rnej politike, tak\u017ee \u010d\u00edm viac ideme do \u00c1zie, \u010d\u00edm viac ideme do Afriky, t\u00fdm viac mus\u00edme pracova\u0165 na humanit\u00e1rnej ceste.

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